She Proved Her $100K Mentor Wrong — Regan Hillyer

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of people have programmed to run an internal structure, where it's like, well, you can have this, but you can't have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, even Oprah has a quote, and she's like, you can have it over not all at once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I disagree with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really believe you can elevate across the board in every layer of your company or business in every area of your life as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing can actually amplify the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it can all spiral up together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Jason Mark Campbell Business Podcast where we explore what it really takes to sell lead and grow a business and ultimately live well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In every episode we go beyond tactics to discover how entrepreneurs and leaders across different sectors are growing with love, impact, and integrity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back everybody to the Jason Markham with podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have an interesting conversation particularly, but those of you who are seeking to have more in your life, whether that's better relationships, more success, more money, and there seems to be a resistance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's almost you have to put extra effort for everything that you want and it feels exhausting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like you watch others that are going out there doing some of the similar things, then you or even bigger things in you,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a very dangerous thought, as you start thinking, is there something wrong with me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the conversation we're gonna have today is we're gonna realize that there is nothing wrong with you, but there's a certain way that you're gonna approach going after what you want, that is much different and those who get it become magnetic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the topic of the conversation today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we...

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[SPEAKER_00]: nurtured this inner magnetism?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is it that some people seem to have it all and can we tap into that energy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, to be effortless and getting what you want, it is about tapping into that energy, and whether you've heard about the law of attraction, manifesting, really we're just talking about how to make it so that things come towards you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what is required?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it just a mindset?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there certain steps?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's unpack the whole scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the person that I have to speak about it is none other than Regan Hillier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a dear friend of mine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've known each other for over a decade, and to see what she has created in her life from becoming a top author on Mind Valley's platform, building her own following to the millions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I know she's working on a great project to build her online school and

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[SPEAKER_00]: develop a property out in Costa Rica called the Nest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll speak more about that, but truly, being able to design wonderful things, and here's the kicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that she does cease to be done with a level of grace, magnetism, and we're going to dissect what is that journey, how she's been able to get so many people in her ecosystem to replicate those results.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully by the end of this interview, you'll be getting results too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Jason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So good to see you, and it's good to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've known each other for a decade and this is what we're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've actually not had a chance to have an interview before like this is our first chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been waiting 10 years at this moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to make it epic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And first off, I thought of congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just came back from doing a manifesting summit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You did a world travel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were out in South Carolina.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me more about that and how was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had 120,000 people registered tuning in over Zoom, and it was a little crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, traveling two days to get there straight into studio, straight back, but it was amazing doing a full set-up studio, and seeing like all the Zoom boxes on all the screens and waving to all the people, like it was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you have a sense of tapping into, you know, collective energy in a very intuitive way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're in front of 120,000 people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering if you've caught on a major trend that you're seeing that is kind of the collective energy, like, as we're recording this, there's a lot of uncertainty in the air, a lot of changes that is happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So while you were doing this event, did you notice something that is a predominant thought or a predominant emotion that the world seems to be going through right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a few things I think the predominant thing and a lot of people were saying this and writing this and this was coming up in VIP interviews that we were doing in coaching and questions is people were like, look, sometimes I can get results but not all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why does it work sometimes but not every time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can I manifest some things but in not other things, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost like this inconsistency and why is that happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was like a common theme that I found pretty interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll pull on that and I'll ask, is it because there seems to be an assumption that when you want to manifest something you have to do trade-offs against other categories of life?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is a big part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of people have programmed to run an internal structure where it's like, well, you can have this, but you can't have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, even Oprah has a quote and she's like, you can have it over, not all at once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I disagree with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really believe you can elevate across the board in every layer of your company or business

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[SPEAKER_01]: and one thing can actually amplify the other thing and it can all spiral it together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you have scarcity programming telling you, well, you know, you could have a great body, but then that's going to be detrimental to your family or, you know, your family life could be great, but, you know, going to be making the money that you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're running these programs, then you literally will create that in your reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, just witnessing what you're working on, especially on the business front.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were telling me your online school is growing really fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A big focus of yours, but I know you're in mids construction in the property of the mess in Costa Rica.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of different projects happening at the same time when for a lot of people, they have trouble getting the first project off the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what have you cultivated to be able to manage so many different projects and not feel so stressed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at least it appears not so stressed or overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't do stress.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If something starts getting into that frequency, I adjust myself in my relationship to it because I don't want to live a life where I'm stressed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's interesting is I was more stressed when I was running one company than I am now running nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that just shows you, it's not the companies, it's not the vision, it's not the mission, it's my relationship to that and that's my energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the systems and the structures also that I build internally and externally to actually support that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I first was talking about or thinking about the fact that we talk about magnetism, I think the first thing people think about is how do I attract money?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That seems to be a big emotion, but what I notice with the fact that now you have nine companies, you have opportunities that seem to be coming at you, you know, left-right and center.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your magnetism seems to be around attracting the right key pull towards you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that's an underestimated part of Magnetism because it often has to do with people the right people coming towards you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming with nine companies you have the right people working in them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The right client seems to be coming in is the way that we focus on Magnetism even though most people are thinking I just want to track more money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should we be more focused on the type of people as a Magnet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's yes, the type of people and even deeper underneath that, I'm always saying to myself, the highest aligned outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that for me is the thing because it's like, that might be the highest aligned system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There might be the highest aligned person that might be the highest aligned feature, the highest aligned opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, like that's the core piece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't want something to come in into a company or in my life if it's not in the absolute highest alignment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of my

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[SPEAKER_01]: centerpoint and then I feel the people and the opportunities, the systems, the money, the layers, all kind of click into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like my center at the compass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you're probably going to catch my scarcity mindset, but I'm going to talk about something that is a fear that comes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I think about highest alignment to me, I'm like, okay, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also know that there's a lot of noise out there that is screaming at me telling me that they are my highest alignment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I'm speaking about, you know, very sophisticated marketing and sales that is out there, are all trying to bring your product solutions to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're all saying like, this is the best option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I sometimes get a little overwhelmed as far as, okay, what decision should I make in my business because there's like three different vendors I could put my attention here there or now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm wondering how do you tune in to finding what is truly the highest alignment as opposed to the noise out there that's all trying to tell you that this is a priority.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it really is a muscle, and I think this is where our intuition comes into it as well, because only you can feel if something's in the highest alignment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to feel that at the end of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We live in this world of like shiny objects and all these things and people are like, I knew this and this and this and this and oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the mind is like amazing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we wanted to tune in and actually check in like, okay, what do I really feel with this and when we're working in an intuitive level with money business opportunities also at a level from the soul, it's also not always logical, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the soul is multi-dimensional and multifaceted and it's not running in a linear way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a little different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes something might come up, which doesn't make so much sense, but you get this gut feeling, like, hey, I feel this is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel I should go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel I should say, yes, I feel I should hire this person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if maybe it's not the highest logical decision, I've really learned to trust that muscle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And every time I get a deep intuitive hit or feeling or knowing or intuition,

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[SPEAKER_01]: even if it's like, I don't know if this makes much sense, I've learned to trust it and generally back everything starts to open up from there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a practice though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well knowing that it's a muscle and a practice means there's ways to train it and I'd be curious to know what are some of the steps for somebody who might be afraid to let go because perhaps some of their prior judgments brought them in the wrong direction at least seem to be the wrong direction at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so we can look to the past to learn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how we recognize these intuitive pieces also when we nailed it and when we didn't listen and when we got it wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if we just look at that as feedback and information, not necessarily like right or wrong or good or bad, but just like information, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many times did you meet someone and then you had a feeling about them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you ignore that feeling and then later you'll like to...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that I knew it, I felt that, something was off at the beginning, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or there's a great opportunity, and you feel, oh my goodness, I should say yes to this, but the mind comes and is like, oh no, like, you don't have enough money to do that, or you don't know how or you're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that type of entrepreneurship let it go and then you see someone else with your idea and they're killing it and you're like, that was my idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, that idea got handed to them because you didn't trust yourself and you didn't execute on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I've had this happen so many times in my own life if I look back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't want to judge ourselves but we want to look back to the past and be like, okay, when did I feel it and when did I trust myself and when did I feel it and when did I not trust myself and what was going on so that I can recognize

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as you gather that intel and you start realizing, hmm, okay, maybe I feel it in my gut when this comes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I get goosebumps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I just know that I know that I know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't make sense, but I feel excited about it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you start getting these information points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can also future map things and try it on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, let's say a friend says to you, can I watch this and I think you're in Bali right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get a group of entrepreneurs together and we're going to meet an L.A. next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you get this immediate feeling of like, oh my goodness, I want to go hang out with these people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the mind comes and it's like, it's a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's really far away from Bali.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to buy a plane ticket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have to leave my partner like, uh, this is like, this is now getting complicated, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What you can do is you can try it on, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me pretend that I'm saying yes to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me check the flights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How am I feeling with the flight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, it feels pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me organize like a card to take me to the airport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm gonna book that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I still feel good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or are you feeling contracted?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you feeling like, oh, this doesn't make sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't be going, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you'll start noticing, not by even making any choices on it, just by mapping it out, how your system's reading the information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can start,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Feeling, okay, even this is a little crazy to get on this plane and go to L.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's something there for me, I'm feeling a big yes, and you go and show it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This person's there and then this opens up and it's one of those moments where you look and go, thank God I went to L.A. Or it's gonna be a moment where you realize I should have gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't listening, I had no idea that person would have been there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As you mentioned this, the last time I feel as in a very similar kind of scenarios was last summer ended up booking a flight and possibly in the summer was just two weeks away to go to my value university.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was happening in Amsterdam and I had some clients that was going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I haven't connected with the tribe in a while and it up going there was a great opportunity, great time, glad I connected with everyone came back and I was like, okay, good decision and I even booked the business class so that I could be rested to jump on stage right after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I'll speak of a different scenario, which is working towards I was running a digital program for a long time, and I felt at the beginning it was very aligned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had those kinds of impulses started selling the community first students came in, and then I kind of got bored with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of felt like stagnant with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I lost interest, and then I just moved away from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's always a part of me that's like, oh my God, was I supposed to continue?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was I supposed to pivot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the things that I feel, I'm not sure how to detect the gut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I see something that started with a lot of momentum, I felt excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I moved away from it, whether it was because it was bored, the results didn't come fast enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a part of me that justifies the decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, I was probably not in alignment with me, so I moved to something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Versus another part that's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe persistence was really what you needed and you were so close because then I saw someone else doing the same thing and now they're having success and I get I get frustrated about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd be curious if this is a common theme that you notice with students or things that you would give as feedback for someone going through that process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's hard to lay and look only you will know at the end of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know it was sabotage, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or was it you know what this just isn't aligned and freeze up your energy for something greater?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've also shut down companies walk the way from opportunities, but knowing you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if I kept going it could have gone here, but it's not an alignment and then I'm bored and it doesn't feel good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no right or wrong, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just looking for the information in the feedback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's important is not to like get frustrated and loop on it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just own the decision, be like okay, it took that decision and then what is there to learn from that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: where that's all there is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe you learned that you made the right choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you learned that, okay, maybe there was a higher option in there where maybe you built team and structure and systems around it and it kept growing, but you weren't in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you didn't have to get bored with it, but it kept going, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there were options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, next time I've learned that, as long as we're extracting the learning, that's what counts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because otherwise, if we don't, we're going to repeat that in some other scenario in our life, down the track until we get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I have noticed is regardless of the decisions are made, whether it's, I gave up on something and moved to something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always feel that there's always another opportunity that's waiting for me around the block that I didn't expect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've never found myself like very needing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've had times where I was like, oh my god, I don't know how I'm going to pay my staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like a speaking opportunity would come in, cover the bills so much more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, I didn't need to touch my personal funds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then a client that I'd spoken to maybe three years ago contacts me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One year contract six figures were like, Okay, I feel like the universe has always had my back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when it comes to magnetism, I've always had this like, I know I'm going to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know if that's the norm for the majority of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it is, and I was about to say, this is because you are running a belief structure in system of the universe always has my back, and no matter what, it's going to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no matter what, I'll find a way, and the universe will provide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If someone doesn't have that running, and they believe that life is against them, and the universe doesn't have their back, and everything could blow up at any moment, and they might not be a solution, then they will create a reality that reflects that in those

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[SPEAKER_01]: because everyone goes through challenges, everyone goes through hard times, everyone goes through unexpected events, but it is this internal structure that will then dictate how we navigate through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great that you have this and I don't think it's normal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm happy you guys know it's amazing, but everyone can learn from that because at any moment we can update our programming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if someone's listening going, well, you know, that didn't happen to me and I did run out of money to pay my staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I had to let half of them go and the universe didn't provide magically overnight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you get to look at what do you believe, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if there's beliefs in there that, okay, I have to suffer or I'm not supported and looked after and protected and provided for then you get to change that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you change the program, then the world will start responding differently to you on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny, because I've always had conversations on this show where we talked about the importance of mindset and what I've always wanted to do is throwing all of, I don't know if it's throwing all of branch, but it's reaching out to a lot of people that might be listening to this conversation and their first thought is this is Bullocks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they're like, oh, his whole mindset, like, I just, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people just have an advantage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't been in my shoes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, they can say that in their perspective of privilege.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's, there's a lot of people that might be listening to this and feeling that ultimate rejection of what we're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we go, no, it's the mindset.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've continuously noticed that the more I think about, oh, yeah, mindset slipped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing the problems amplify.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I fixed the mindset and I'm seeing this for someone who's not had that, that taste of what happens when you go to the root, they feel very bitter about these types of conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you've made any progress in helping them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See through a concrete example or a baby step that could give him a taste of look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't throw the baby out with a bath water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've not seen the results yourself, there is a seed of greatness that you can start with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I totally get it and let's also just note that it's not just mindset because someone might also be sitting there going, well, you know, I wrote out affirmations and I think positively and these bad things still haven't been to me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my mindset's fine but then why is it's happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've also got to look a little deeper and let's look at science, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if we look at quantum physics, I'm just going to throw over on the deep end here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: we have the quantum field around us, which effectively houses and stores all the information us included were not separate format, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Science says all of the information is into woven and connected, a relative to time space and distance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we look at matter, things that appear very solid and still are actually vibrating and oscillating, and if we zoom in, everything including ourselves is made up of science, but say 99.999999, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say potential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if we keep zooming in, everything's connected through energy fields.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this would mean that I'm connected right now through an energy field that's connecting to your energy field that's connecting to our future manifestations that's connecting us to our past, all the information is there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we think a thought, that thought actually creates a frequency in our system and that frequency directly influences the energy field that we are interacting with through the quantum field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then this directly impacts our results that then show up in our 3D physical reality, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is why someone can be writing out 100 affirmations and deep down having a frequency and vibration of like, oh, I feel so heavy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing is really actually going to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do all this mindset work, but deep down the vibration is not matching to what they want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in order to create the life that we want, we've got to match to it energetically, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to actually get into the frequency and the feeling of feeling that we have this now before it has shown up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's waiting for the result and then they'll feel happy and grateful that it's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we've actually got to feel it first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And from my journey, what I've found is that this is made and you fine-tune this muscle in the moments when it's really tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the moments when it's hot, you know, my first company when I started out, I was living in New Zealand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I moved over to Australia and my very first business I ever set up was a drug and alcohol rehab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we would be working with clients in a very private premium way through hotels, working with natural vitamin C and therapy is in all of this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And long story short, everything went completely south in that business partnership overnight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Six figures in the account wiped out, evicted from my apartment in Melbourne, sleeping on my friend's couch, begging him, like, can you pay for my food for the next couple of weeks?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is very mad, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was sitting on this couch and his one bedroom apartment, and I realized I was like, this is the moment where I get to define the rest of my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I wanted to do was fall into all the stories of, see, regain your 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ever until you were going to mess this up, I couldn't even tell my parents what it happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because I was like, they're just going to turn around and say, see, like, go back to university, get a job, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is very dangerous, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We knew you'd mess it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was telling myself, well, these stories also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not good with money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't trust people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there was so much going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I knew enough at that time, even being 20, to being like, okay, if I am in this state and this vibration, I am literally going to copy paste this into my future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I stopped and I was like, okay,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to choose to recalibrate myself and get my energy into a place where I'm really intentional with the life that I want to create.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I fast forward, it was probably about a year and a half after that that I'd started my own education company, I was helping women in the dating industry and I was

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was by 23 years old, I've made my first million dollars through that company, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I often look back and that first million dollars wasn't generated in the times where everything started to click and go, well, it was decided chosen and calibrated from the couch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, it really was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we all have these couch moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We turn around and you're like, how did I end up here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not see this coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this happening to me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's in those moments that we realize like, okay, we can actually change this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are consciously creating our future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't take conscious control over it, you will copy paste what you don't want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the repeating story pattern is probably the biggest issue that most people are finding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, when I, I remember when I heard concepts around the law of attraction or manifesting or around like your thoughts become the things at a young age, I was very happy because that became some of the first mindset that I could choose and I've gone to chance to witness the upcycle of that mindset.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What imagine is if somebody's went through a few of these repetitive cycle and assuming that it can never change, then this is the most disruptive conversation that they need to listen to right now because you can change that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Affirmations didn't work, there's something deep I need to look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that introspection look like so I can actually start putting this magnetism to work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so what you'd want to do is you want to stat firstly getting really clear on what is your vision and what do you actually want because if you don't have a center point of where to focus the energy the field goes well, I'm not quite sure what to give you the universe goes I'm not really sure what you want so you need to be clear on that and the next layer is to actually expand your capacity to receive it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because it's energy and if we don't have a container large enough to actually hold what we desire, it's going to just fly past us, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Money opportunities to love all of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just energy at the end of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you can do this, for example, by

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[SPEAKER_01]: clarifying what I call the vision beyond the vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, if someone's looking to manifest a $10,000, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the layer beyond that, if I said to you, if you woke up tomorrow and you'd already done that, what would you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe it's $15,000, maybe it's $20,000, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you're working a layer or two out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this changes the energetics of the big vision and step number one, all of a sudden, it's not so big, it's just a stepping stone, actually, of what you're now conditioning yourself to hold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the third layer is to look at what's blocking and stopping this showing up right now within you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if it's not hearing your life and you haven't created a physical form, this pieces of you that are effectively slung down the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what are the fears?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the doubts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the self-savetage patterns?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the emotions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are the patterns of overthinking everything, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you realize, okay, these are just patterns of information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In any moment, you can go, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm no longer tolerating that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm unsubscribing from this fear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell myself a new story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you do the work to calibrate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the fourth step is that you must actually update your beingness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't get in life what we do, but we do get absolutely who we choose to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and most people are functioning from an old outdated version of themselves that belongs in their past reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead what if you connect with a version of you out there in the future that's already creative what you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well how do they walk?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do they talk?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they think about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they say yes to?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they no longer tolerate?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do they dress?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much water do they drink?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the details, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you start showing up as that version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not faking it to you make it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually about getting into radical authenticity with who you are

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then the fifth step, which is super important, is to then act from that place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people miss this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, I'm doing all this in a work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yeah, but what did you do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just sat there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm waiting for Uber eats to deliver it to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, no, no, you have to show up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to cook, create, you've got to participate, you've got to call the person, close the deal, write the book, do the thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to actually take action, but you're doing it not from a place of, I have to make everything happen, how do I make it happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing it from a place of, no, I know it's done, I'm fully aligned to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm now just speeding it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking action so it can show up faster even faster than I expect, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the very important piece that again, people tend to go either way, either forgetting the inner work and just taking action from the wrong frequency or they're doing all this inner work, then they're not actually showing up and doing the thing we need to do both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can already imagine, especially that step where you start thinking of yourself in that future state, in this higher self, and you start auditing what you do in a single day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably I've started identifying that there's some uncomfortable truth to face of where your time goes, where your energy goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a it almost comes back to what I was saying earlier around there's a lot of companies that maybe trying I was talking from the sense of like deals are coming to me I don't know which one to choose but distractions are coming to us time-wasters are coming to us whether that's to the socials the substances the addiction like everything's trying to pull at you But when you're coming from that energetic top self version then you're like oh am I doing scrolling no right getting on the phone Oh am I going out for a drink?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm going to bed earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing my exercise because I'm coming at a peak state.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I often find it from a perspective of somebody spending a lot of time doing the inner work, but not auditing their day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably is where the rubber meets the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100% and even opportunities like even big life decisions become very clear when you're anchored in this embodiment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, does this match my highest self?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does this match my ultimate reality?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this a fit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes or not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great shiny object, but no, it doesn't match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a clarinet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like what you said about the vision behind the vision because I've noticed something in my own life, which is when I've set goals that were very rational, like upward trajectory linear type goals, like I know I have some great potential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I set a goal which is pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's exciting and it's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it gives me enough of the drastic actions that need to be taken to really take my life to the next level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost when I've had these moments where I thought long-term vision, I went to the ridiculous, the unrealistic, the stuff that's like, let's go into a little La La Land, almost like if I'm presenting a proposal to investors of where my company is going, and I'm just embellishing all the numbers, projecting all the positives, and I've put something crazy up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember one of those things

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[SPEAKER_00]: In 2013, I had just started mind-value, and I remember setting one goal, saying, I'd write a book, and like, who was I to write a book?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just this dude who started at mind-value doing launches, you know, and my God, the book did come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked back and I was like, well, all the crazy things I'd written back then have come to life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've noticed every time I take the time to dictate a vision, and not hold myself back to that linear, but to go crazy, it seems to just anchor all my actions to be much more powerful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, you feel kind of stupid doing it because you're like, oh, this doesn't make sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is way too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's asking for too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a normal reaction?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it something we have to train to overcome?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you've got to train yourself to be in that Bigness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not naturally wired to be like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, on the same, I say to my clients, like, you've got to be completely unreasonable with what you're asking for, what you're dreaming into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right and asking yourself this and then being on a apologetic and claiming that and then actually demanding that in your life right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a muscle and that's so that's definitely a skill set because we're wired not to be like that We're actually wired even in our biology the opposite of that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we're wired to basically keep ourselves safe alive and breathing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, when we get to an edge of a cliff, our whole system goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, let's stop, stop, stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't walk any feather, there's a cliff, you're going to fall, you might die, I need to keep you safe, come back a little, go, go one meter back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right and that's very useful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want that response.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't want to be running off the edge of cliffs and dying, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't want to shut this down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the same thing happens when we come to the edge of expansion, if that's with money or a company's scale like whoa whoa whoa whoa hey hey hang on hang on like this is this is an edge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No no no come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we wire ourselves unconsciously back into the North, into our comfort zones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why a lot of people have a spike and they have a really big month financially.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they fall back and they don't keep the money or they, it's not sustained scaling growth because they're not conditioning themselves into their next piece, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to the edge of the cliff and then, ah, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you know this, when you get near the edge of the cliff and you're like, oh my goodness, we're about to have our biggest month or about to go hero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This deal's about to come in, or this has been signed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, oh my god, it's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The client showed up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to show your system what's on the other side of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if not, it's going to paint it as a big black hole that you might fall in and die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that can be a big black haul after a million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That can be a big black haul after a hundred million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter where it's at can be after ten thousand dollars, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't show your system, hey, beyond this, we're going here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look how good it gets to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it's even more amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then make yourself feel safe and comfortable with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it feels big and scary and uncomfortable, your system is going to run in the opposite direction because we are creatures of safety and comfort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, we want to set these big goals that feel, oh my god, it's so big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It scares me a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The minute a client says that I'm like, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to have it be not scary anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: can be big, it can be even, I don't know how it's going to happen, but it's got a feel comfy, it's got a feel amazing, it's got a feel of cost, this is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To the point where when it actually shows up in half ends, we're happy and we're grateful, but there's a deep knowing of like, you have a new that was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you're so internally aligned and matched to it that there's not a part of you of like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, it happened to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this reaction is going on, I can almost guarantee the person's not going to sustain the result.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of talks about a lot of the lottery types of scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and you spoke about growing that container as a necessity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've also seen that there's almost like, you know, sales is a big thing I'm passionate about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned how you hit a record sales month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so easy that you hit that you've gone number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's almost like a gene that puts you back into comfort being, yeah, all the hustle and the things you did that month to hit that record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you can chill a little bit, you could hit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the next goal isn't there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have to keep pushing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, not a lining, not pushing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I use it and I use it deliberately, so tell me why I have to keep pushing might not be the right energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because again, if we're pushing, we're doing this from an energy of what I call manufacturer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: where we're basically trying to line everything up perfectly, join the dots to work really hard and push and hustle and push and then eventually get to the place right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now 99.9% of people are functioning like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I created a lot of money, a lot of success from that energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it can be very hard for someone to come out of that because they're like, why it works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did hustle my way to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did get there by just working really hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, yes, but what if there's another way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have so many clients come to me and they've created a huge amount in their lives and in their companies from this energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell you what, they burnt out, they're exhausted, they're capping, they're like, there's only one of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can't scale, like even if they have a team, the teams in the same energy took their like, it's not growing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not moving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing will accelerate things forward because it's from this energy, which deep down as an energy of control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the other option is what I call surrender manifestation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: where we actually lean back and we co-create and we allow, like you're saying, the universe to have our back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're showing up and we're participating in the process, but we're listening, we're trusting, we're acting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're doing this in an aligned way where we're still taking action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're not trying to push or make anything happen, we're aligning to the highest outcomes that we talked about in the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And from there, we're showing up and saying, well, how can I speed up this process?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I go into this even bigger result, make it even more comfortable, make it feel even more amazing, and then actually play with the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no longer about the result with certain manifestations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the other way, the pushing, it's like, I've got to get to the results, certain manifestations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, I know that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but when the win is the question, it's the time, can I do it in a month?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will it happen in a year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will it take me 30 years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're playing with a time period now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really the difference between someone that's gonna burn themselves out through this process to make it, you know, and nah, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, I've been there, it's so exhausting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if I hadn't had switched this within myself, I wouldn't have multiple companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my companies, my education company, has 88 different revenue streams within it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just within one company, impossible if I'd been still doing this from this energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to let go, I had to come into this place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, playing with the time and the acceleration from a surrender place and when you do this, you can be nourished, you can grasp, you can be looked after, you can have systems and support,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the synergy of like stress that we talked about from the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As someone who may or may not operate from this manufactured manifesting space, the first thought that came to mind when I'm hearing about this surrendered manifestation is like, oh my god, will I feel like I'm being lazy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's the thought of am I lazy if I'm not hustling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd want to unpack that programming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had it too and it's a big piece that locks a lot of people stepping into this new frequency this new way because for so many of us we've been programmed that we have to work hard and with links are value to working hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now I had this from my childhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like work had play later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You did so well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter what result you got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You worked so hard on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the best order of it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was so much of this programming until I saw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, whoa,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had some things, you know, unlaw can happen when I started tapping into this new way, and then I was like, why did I create that result?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel a little empty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, where is this emptiness coming from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, I don't feel enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel validated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel like I, and I don't feel like I had to work hard to prove to the world that I could figure out and do it, and I was like, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hey, right, this programming runs so deep for so many people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and so from that perspective, what did you start to do differently so that this one's stop you moving forward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just caught the programming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I realized, like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: My worse and value of being vegan and who I am as a human.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm unlinking this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to be linked to how hard I work, what if I could do no hard work, have amazing results and be completely deserving and worthy of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that'd be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to try that on, and at first it was really uncomfortable, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just so unknown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, but who's going to praise me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was

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[SPEAKER_01]: going to validate me, like, what is this going to come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, I get to validate myself for just being me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get to validate myself, just being the best version of me and for being an awesome human, not to prove to the world that I've made it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I see so many even billionaires out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, ah, ah, ah, ah, this next level, this next energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, deep down inside, I see this little boy or this little girl that's just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I know the majority of the big clients you work with now, business owners, multimillionaires, that are looking for, or leaving blocks that they have for whatever it is they're creating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for somebody who might be listening to this from a different financial structure where it's like, I'm trying to make my first 10,000, I'm trying to make my first 100,000, maybe it's a few thousand, like I'm in a different financial space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: would look at somebody making millions and be like how could they have any problems they're making millions type of scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be very curious to see what are the common patterns you notice once people have at least broken the million are making like the the financial comfort level is taken care of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're facing different bigger challenges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the usual blocks that come along the road ban?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when people elevate past the million dollar mark and or even past just two or three million right, and you're right, they're in a place generally with their life is really taking care of at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, unless they're very crazy, like, you know, their lifestyle is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty pretty taking care of that then needs in their own personal desires taking care of you know what I see and so many of these people they hit this like this point and they're like why would I need to grow why would I need to make any more money what for what purpose right and I went through this and layers of this myself too because when you've been

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[SPEAKER_01]: creating your entire life and all the outcomes from really survival for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, okay, I need to do this to survive to make sure my bills are paid to make sure I can do this to make sure I have, then not just survival, but a little bit of financial freedom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now there's surplus in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you hit this point where you're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh well that's taking care of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it feels weird because you're like oh I'm a human I want to evolve but then why am I evolving there's no point to the evolution right and so they hit this piece and it's the same unlock every time the minute they start connecting with something that's bigger than them it always unlocks it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that can be different, that could be their kids, that could be their family, that could be their community, that could be humanity, that could be just like, you know what, I want to serve more people, I want to help more people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The minute this unlocks, I just see it every time that income, that teams, that everything to start to like, because they have a bigger reason driving it forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're taking care of, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's like, I see so many of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they hit this point, they don't know why they're hitting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're literally just like, some of them even like, I think I'm at shutdown my company and I'm like, why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, maybe I'm bored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll just do it again and another industry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, no, no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The arrest decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's often because they haven't connected to impact and service that's beyond themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you were talking a bit about the vision, vision behind a vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like something you could just write really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, today my vision is this like what is the actual energy we need to dedicate towards vision?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I've I've seen what happens when I really spend the time to get clear on vision and it's in it's a very energetically demanding process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I need to put conscious thought towards it and I don't take it lightly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a certain formula for somebody to go through to get more clear on the vision?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it require a certain amount of energy and be curious?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it does often because so many of us have so much programming that's actually blocking and stopping the vision, you know, if there's so many people, it's like, oh, well, you know, don't dream too big or don't ask for more than one thing at once or

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, no, people like us and our family don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know anyone who's created that rate, who are you to dream that big, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pay attention and class, stop daydreaming, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of programming that's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to, that's, I think, where the energy comes, because when you go past that, you can be receiving visions all day and intuitive downloads and I'm like, God, I'm what about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But until you push past that programming, that can take a lot of energy, because you're pushing up against it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're having to kind of, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: go beyond it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's really a practice of sitting down and asking yourself, you know, if I was to be completely unapologetic for what I desire, my vision to be what I want my life to look like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would I ask for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so many people have never asked themselves that question, and they've never actually given themselves permission to dream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was me when I was starting out in personal development, if I was like, yeah, these visions and create a vision board and I sat there and I was like drawing a blank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was literally like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what is wrong with me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I could say, like, money, but then I'm like, for what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I literally couldn't dream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought something was wrong with me until I was like, until I understood, like, there's just so much programming in there that I'm pushing up against.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just started trying things on, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was my game I would play with it because I was so blocked with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, if I go shopping and I walk into a store, I'm gonna let me try on this hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me try the jacket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jackets kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me put it there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see if I want it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These shoes are good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, these match the jeans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this works well together, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just try on these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the next day I might be like, no, I actually don't want it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then a week later,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This thing's still coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be so cool to create in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me really double down on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a real thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would just make it fun like a game without pressure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone's trying to pull concrete on their vision and be like, this is the rest of my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to get it right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same with their life purpose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is my life purpose?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to know now because it's going to be the same for a bit and it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My vision now is totally different to 10 years ago, and that's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You grow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You evolve, and you're not boring concrete on it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's important to make it a game, try things on, and just get in this process in this inquiry, even 10, 15 minutes a day, like, okay, if I could dream any dream today, what would that be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just sit with it, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you said is not put in concrete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a very liberating statement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how your everything is about trying it on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd be curious to ask you this, the trajectory you see for somebody, based on not having any kind of vision, versus doing this exercise and perhaps being in the wrong quote-unquote vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they just put a vision,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've said it versus not having done the exercise at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you still feel it's best to go for something wrong to help you get the learnings as opposed to not do the exercise at all?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm not sure that there's like right and wrong, but I know you mean it's like something maybe not aligned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like not their highest, not as good as it could be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say yes, go for it, because you're going to learn from it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would much prefer that someone's like, I want this, and then they live their life and they get it, and they're like, oh, actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't really care about that so much right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we've all done that and I think it's amazing because you're gonna grow through that process You're gonna learn through that you're gonna you're gonna look back and be like, well, now I know what I do actually want or this is so much more lines But I would much prefer that than someone sitting on the couch not doing anything with their life being like no I haven't got the vision perfect right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's truly aligned not sure if it's really from my soul I'll just do nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll stand my job I won't actually take the risk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna write the book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be the wrong title

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[SPEAKER_01]: right is like no, just start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just get it out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Try things on and you'll learn as you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think of the two biggest growth moments in my life happened when I got involved in like investing in US real estate and I had a mentor which was not the most legitimate program at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was this American guy that would do these like get rich quick stuff?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I paid them tens of thousands of dollars and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the most growth I've ever had because I had to go back and relearn everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I realized I, oh my god, I done a bunch of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea what I was doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I was taught was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a chance to kind of reframe my relationship with what had happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will talk to these people I kind of got out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up fixing everything that I needed to get fixed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I found the right people that came in that made things right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I look back and I'm like, I have a choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the choice that I had made is maybe this person knew that I could swim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they decided to just throw me so deep in the ocean that I could discover it for myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I say that because even in the worst of visions that got put in front of me, and ended up being one of the biggest catalysts to my growth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and not directly, but still had an impact into bringing me to the path where eventually I moved to Malaysia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I worked that mind value, one thing like to another to who I am now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That experience was needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was almost like a stepping stone, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Life is always happening for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I have a similar story in the sense where, you know, when I was studying out online and you know, nothing about online business and I shut down my seminar company in Australia and New Zealand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, when I help more people, I want to go online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I went from zero to my first moving online in about eight months, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the beginning of that journey, I hired a mentor with money I didn't have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was $100,000, coaching package, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I maxed out stack of credit cards in the last little chunk of cash that I had and did it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, looking back, how they were teaching me business and what to do online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is completely the opposite of what I ended up doing, what actually worked for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very, like, masculine, distorted old school, like, the sales stuff that would make you cringe, basically, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they were teaching all the stuff, but what am I going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm now, like, in this container, I'm 100k in and I'm like, okay, and so, you know, even though,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really actually helping me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was helping me build discernment around what I don't want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could get clarity on what I do want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, as a part of that coaching practice package rather, I went to this event in America and I was like, okay, let me go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me show up at this event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if I learn from these guys in person, something's going to click and I'm going to get results.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I flew myself all the way to America and I was one of the youngest people in the room sitting in this room and the guy is, you know, walking through the audience and and he's doing this thing where he's saying, you know, I can breed people immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from how you are, your body language, what you're wearing, what you're going to amount to, how much money you'll make, how successful you'll be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's kind of doing this whole thing, saying he's basically like this X-ray scanner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, okay, and I can feel him coming closer and closer towards me, and I'm like, oh God, oh no, please, no, I don't want to be an example, no, you know, it's like, wait, eyes are going down at the ground, and I'm like, please don't pick me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, stand up, he comes to me and he makes me stand up in front of the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in front of everyone's 250 fill in the room, in front of everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, see this woman, Regan, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, she will end Mount to nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he told me a part in front of, this was like 15 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Told me a part in front of this audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of how I'd done my hair, how I was dressed, how I wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was very corporate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like a, you know, 24-year-old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wore it over, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'm like sitting there and he just destroyed me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was crying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was a whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the guy I'd paid a hundred grand to, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I go back to my hotel room and I'm a mess, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anyone else there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no friends around me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just sitting with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ended up coming back and I actually went back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was living in a little villa in Bali at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I flew back to Bali and this thing is just like playing on repeat in my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll amount to nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look how you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have this going, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I sat there and I had this moment where I was like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to let this define me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt angry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was like, how dare he pull a woman out of

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, look, I have an okay like backbone on me, but if someone didn't have any sort of back when this could destroy them, then this could be a life, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I got online and I made a video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't tell the story about what happened, but what I did do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is I did this very fiery video of who I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm choosing my life is going to be like, how I define myself and I'm not going to let anyone else define me, basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this video was like three minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of yelling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I didn't tell the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't make the guy wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just said, I've come to this realization that I'm not going

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did this whole thing, that video for my little thousand people audience at the time went viral basically and it went off and there was so many people on there being like, yes, me too, I stammered you, did it, did it, did it, and I ended up making about $30,000 off the back of that video from people reaching out to me, being like, I'm a woman and I want to have this confidence, can you help me, did it, and it opened up really the first part of my online business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from taking this stand of feeling so angry as to what it happened to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, you could look back and be like, that was so bad, that was terrible $100,000 investment all of this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, thank God all of that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, I learned how to create polarizing content through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, I learned to go in and figure out what hang on, I could actually make sales and help people through a personal experience that I'm going through and just being authentic with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, is it good, is it bad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It happened, it's happening for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever get, did you ever communicate with that person again after?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really, and in fact, you know what is so weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a very weird story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't thought about the story for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a moment in time and I forgot about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was teaching in one of the courses from my community recently, actually on a sales training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for some reason, I was talking about content and polarizing content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The story came up and I shared it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and one of my clients weren't she because I was in the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember the small man, don't have like, oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then recently when I was at this event in South Carolina that I just got back from, someone actually tagged me in an Instagram story and it was this guy's face and my face and someone said I've just been shooting into two online events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Different events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they were learning from the two people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he popped back into my mouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it feels a lot like my story, which is like I've never recomunicated with those mentors that maybe go through that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I choose a story where I'm like, you know what, they tore me down and brought me there because they knew I could swim back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you, did you have that kind of association me like maybe he tore me down?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he knew I'd have this anger fired that would lead to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trusted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just trusted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him do it also multiple times to other people, specifically other women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I was watching that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't the only one that went through that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the first one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But not the only one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fast ends and so to me, whatever it is, it's like your reaction to it is what dictated it becoming a baseline of a success story, if that's something that stops you fully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the mindset comes back to how we react to everything and the whole conversation, I hope for anybody who listen is like understanding that this is real, this is how we become magnet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gave us a lot of prescriptions on how to go and change our behaviors, the five steps that we can go through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of prescriptive stuff here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of wanted to close in into something that would be all the tangible side because I know you're excellent at sales, communication, building businesses, working with people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In today's age, do you have certain skills that are maybe facilitators of manifesting or being magnetic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like are there tangible skills that you're like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know some of these principles that are varying the 3D, they make life a little more effortless in the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, a separate question, well, you know what's interesting when I think about magnetism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think from the perspective actually a core fundamental piece of it is actually sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe not sales in the traditional way of a transaction online, but if you really think about it, you are going through a selling process between yourself, the universe, your audience, your clients, opportunities, people that you would love to be magnetized towards you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you actually understand sales in magnetism is a lot easier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if you actually think about it, if you think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like to think of sales not as closing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me give you a credit where it's due.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This came from a salesperson on my team, Ashley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hired her maybe eight or a private eight years ago, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was sitting there on an interview, a final interview with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my CEO said to her, so Ashley, you know, what's your sales process?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you close someone on the phone?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she turned around and she said, I don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and he said, well, we're looking to hire a salesperson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we need you to have a process to close clients.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she goes, no, I don't close them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes, I open them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, she's hired hire, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's sad that when I'm closing anyone, we're opening them to opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And our job as the person making the sale is to abuse magnetism to open to an opportunity so that then someone can choose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I see this, you know, if you're wanting to come into a business relationship, you want to open the opportunity through your magnetism for someone to go, oh, I'd love to do business with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're looking for a client, well, here's the opening for an opportunity to work deeper with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if this magnetism and the other client's going to be magnetized towards you, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel it's very intertwined and very interconnected when we actually look at it this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sure you love this too, is I feel like also every day, every way with ourselves, we're making a sale to our higher self or our lower self and the universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's old sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessed with sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were selling all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not, look, if I'm running a training for three hours and there's some sort of offer at the end, I'm not running a training and then making an offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing is an offering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: From the minute you open and say, Hey, everyone, how's it going to when you close off at the end?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole piece is an offering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And is it magnetic?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And does it open off?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Machinity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you do this well at the point where you then make the offer, it's not going to feel weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to feel uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one's going to feel so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to feel like, wow, this isn't an amazing offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a part of this entirety of the offer from start to finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're always selling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're speaking to the selling with love guys, so I am like amen to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be curious to hear your perspective from somebody who has any kind of resistance to sales or block around sales.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you typically advised for them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if there's a resistance and if there's a block, you've got to look at really what you've made sales mean to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I've already said multiple times, I love sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sales is amazing, but guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also love being so too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like if someone says trying to make me an offer, I'm like, okay, give it to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, what's the offer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Break it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear it like, I love the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the inquiry, I love the tension, I love looking at like, okay, if I want this resort, well, then what's that going to cost me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And is that worth that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me feel the pool?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the process of it and I've fallen in love with that process because for me, if someone truly is selling from an authentic way in integrity, and they have some sort of offer that they know is the best thing in the world and it's going to generate results.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then they're serving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is service, you know, so if selling means service, oh, you don't like, you don't like service, you don't like serving people, you don't like helping people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well check yourself, why not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so you see, if you really truly know that authentic sales equals service, if that's you making the offer or if someone else making an offer to you, if you know that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it if you're worried about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's only when you've made sales mean that something's out of integrity or it's not authentic or you have to manipulate someone or you have to convince someone or how do we handle these objections?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, what if there was no objection because you have done such an amazing job at actually serving in a powerful way that someone might just want

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is available, but it's not going to happen if you're like sales is hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's horrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an awful process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's highly uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If selling truly is service, then there's no separation between that, then why not fall in love with it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was the only weird one who loved being sold to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a sales call over the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two weekends ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was so good like he spent so much time on discovery and then he did the thing which just made me Giggle because at the end he just dropped the price and when he dropped the price he just went silent And I knew what he was doing and I was like, and I was thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was I computating it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going in okay how much it's a per year if I break down for a month?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the silence was like 40 seconds, and then I was like, oh, he's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we started talking about pricing, and started putting the offer together, but it's so nice to speak to quality salespeople.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I find that some of the biggest problems that I face in business often times are the other side of a sales call, because I find people on a sales roll when they're coming from a place of service, they're always trying to help you solve problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they help you discover your problems better than you can interrate them to yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always excited about taking a sales call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was fine that there's maybe possibilities that I have via programs or service, and sometimes it's just not a right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't have a fear relationship with sales, which I'm hoping to inspire so many people listening to also get rid of the fear of sales and realize that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When it's an act of love of service, it's a beautiful thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's nurturing a relationship as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're literally coming into a beautiful relationship of getting to know someone, communicating with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, of course, you know, if you just meet someone and then someone's like, by this thing, yeah, of course, it's gonna feel weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna be like, what's your name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's gonna be strange, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're in this dance of going deeper in a relationship and you understand that and you have the best intention in that relationship to really serve the person,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's an amazing process, you know, this is one of the things I did actually when I shifted online because when I went online I had been before I went online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was spending a lot of time on the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I came from one-on-one coaching on the phone and then doing discovery calls to then enroll people into the one-on-one coaching and I was like manufactured manifestation pushing going for some days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like 12, 14 hours on the phone, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: lit up, being like, yes, this is so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love my clients, I love my purpose, and I'm exhausted, is like so intense.

01:01:35.040 --> 01:01:39.546
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's part of why I moved online because I was like, one to many leverage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's net, this is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I went online,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started from zero and I knew nothing about online business, what, so ever, I made a rule because I was like, I want to do this on my terms and I want everything to feel fun and expensive and amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to grow this to be a multi-moon dollar company all over the world and I'm not going to be on the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I made myself a rule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that led to the question,

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[SPEAKER_01]: especially if they're high ticket sales, right?

01:02:09.934 --> 01:02:22.578
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I started building out layers of the architecture of the ecosystem, we're okay, you know, I could make an offer on a webinar or through my social media that's $97, it's $55, one to many, cool, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I start asking people for $5,000, $20,000 like, how do I do this if it's not on the phone?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I have a rule, I'm not gonna get on the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a couple of options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could hire salespeople.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That felt way too big and scary because it was just me starting out by myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't want to be responsible for that.

01:02:40.587 --> 01:02:41.548
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, how do I do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I did from that choice and from that boundary that I have with myself is I thought, OK, well, I know the process to take people through a sales process on like a discovery call for saying, Alwa, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And do that in a super loving authentic way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if I did that, but I did it through direct message?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I effectively broke down the core stages of that into chunks of different messages where I chatted to people and then started asking them, like, what's your dream?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your vision?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they would tell me, okay, why do you think you're not there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they'd write back and I guided them through this process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have something that could support that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like to take a deep look?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me send you the link.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started making sales through the DMs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kept going on this and at the million dollar mark I hadn't made one sales phone call and then it wasn't until my only company was doing over $3 million a year that I was like maybe I could actually bring sales people and have them on the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right it was at that point right and since then I've closed million dollar deals through the DM not having a phone call with people and these were people that weren't existing clients they didn't know me I called them the silent watches right they're out there they're watching you every move for years but they say nothing they never comment they never liked they never do anything

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then they message and they're like, hey, you know, do you do private mentorship?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you know, and a couple of messages back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do I wire the money?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you want to have a phone call?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm good, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's so much that can be done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: practically strategy-wise, but again, this only works if your own mindset relationship and energy with sales is dialed in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise you none of this would have worked if I was like, I hate sales and I'm not going to do phone calls because I'm avoiding it because sales is a key and it's the worst thing ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like every company needs solid sales and solid system sales processes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the people in there, including you as the founders,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here in this has been so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Long overdue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm so glad we had this conversation, we've covered so many topics and for everybody tuning in, we've talked about magnetism, talked about attraction, we've talked about manifesting, we've talked about sales, but as you listen to the conversation we had today, you have some steps around, hey, if you're finding yourself in negative patterns, we've talked about ways to break out of that, we've seen the evidence of what happens when you start becoming magnetic, the things that can come to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen Regan's running nine different companies and there's some people that are achieving great things out there with less effort than the things that we're doing now and one of the key things I'm taking away from the conversation is a reminder of how powerful it is when we think about the vision behind the vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever plans you've set up something you want to achieve, be sure you've planned the next thing beyond that so that you don't get into that roller coaster ride that drops right after you achieve that next vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And having that bigger vision at the back I think just pulls the momentum even faster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm reminded of how that's worked in my life, and I'm encouraged to start doing it again, and with that, just some step-by-step processes to not just write the affirmation, but to truly step into your role of your higher self and making every decision come from there, is always a powerful reminder, especially in your-

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[SPEAKER_00]: tempted, distracted, or brought into the places that might not be leading to where you were.

01:06:04.114 --> 01:06:11.203
[SPEAKER_00]: We've also spoke about the pushing energy can manufacture the manifesting, but there are better ways getting into flow and making things come towards you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to give you the floor for some closing words, something you'd love for people to walk away from this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so impressed with your memory to remember every day we talked about your amazing posts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, closing words I would say, you absolutely can have it all.

01:06:28.242 --> 01:06:29.604
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where we started, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to be trading off one thing for the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can live a life at so fulfilled and rich and abundant and always if you choose that.

01:06:37.433 --> 01:06:39.214
[SPEAKER_01]: and you don't have to be sacrificing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can really create this beautiful reality, but it comes down to you and you're in a world and calibrating yourself and then choosing to show up as the best vision of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you so much for having me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And an absolute pleasure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening to the Jason Mark Campbell, Business Bargast, and of course, keep selling with love.